Tag: Religion

Would a God Have Sympathy?

Posted by – May 20, 2010

The question is of course hypothetical but it brings up the idea that if a god or gods exist would they have any sympathy for us?

If I were to create something such as a small program that outputs ‘ow’ whenever it gets pinged would I feel bad for it? Probably not because what the program experiences is so far removed from what I conceive of as pain that I wouldn’t really care, it’s just a small program after all and it’s just doing what I created it to do.

Gods would be just as advanced or infinitely more so, thus the gap would be even wider.

For a better example imagine you have a rodent or insect problem. Many people would use poison to kill the pests, knowing that this death may not be painless nor instant. When in fact many people think this would be torture to submit people to the same thing if they were to be executed by the state.  So even within our own genetic family tree we see a lack of sympathy for fellow creatures on which we share DNA with.

So if we cannot even take pity on our fellow creatures how could someone/something that is so infinitely more disconnected care about our suffering or worries. Especially those who think their prayers for a new car or their sports team to win are important enough to warrant a gods attention.

Update: Bible Study

Posted by – August 5, 2008

Sorry for the lack of updates and posts, been busy.  Should hopefully be on track from here on out.  Not that anyone reads this crap anyway.

The bible study has sort of fallen off the wagon the last few weeks, which has probably lapsed into months.  The original fellow who I’ve been studying with (Ashton) had said he was moving to Swift Current, SK to help out a Great Hall (their name for churches) out there.  It at first seemed fabricated as it seemed odd, and the previous week I had argued with someone he brought with him (an older guy named Al) about evolution, which I won’t get into right now.  However I don’t totally feel that this was the reason, so will take his word for it, as I have no real reason to doubt him (although I feel trust must be earned, you don’t start at zero).

So, instead of Ashton I’m going to be studying with a guy named John who is probably in his late 30’s and was a Roman Catholic for X amount of years before converting (who can blame him, the Catholic Church is horrid).  However, for the first few weeks of this transition, John simply didn’t show up.  I had thought maybe I scared them away, and this was their way of shying away politely.  This was not the case however as John finally showed up last week.

At the time however we were in the process of having our windows replaced.  This turned out horribly I might add, with severe damage to my desk, but that story and images will appear later.  I had given John my number and he called me the following week to see if I was free, we were again still in the process of getting everything cleaned up, and this past Monday he would have came, but there was a holiday.  I’m hoping he’ll call and come over this following Monday to continue our lesson.

Many people think it’s severely strange for me to want to take this free home bible study, and I don’t blame them.  However, the bible and religiosity is a very interesting subject for me.  It encompasses our fears and hopes and what we want from life and society, smashes it together into a very inconsistent blob of thoughts and ideas, that everyone acts and truly believes is cohesive and good.  It’s a phenomenon that has touched everyone, whether directly or indirectly and will probably continue for generations to come.

The bible study with others is a lot easier to cope with than alone, mostly because I interpret things VERY different than believers.  For Example:

(Isaiah 45:7, KJV) – “I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.”

I’ll read this passage, and to me it speaks volumes about there being no Satan, Devil,Evil Spirit, whatever you’d like to call it as God creates all things, Good and Evil.  Which reflects back to the serpent in the Garden of Eden.  God created the serpent, and with his infinite wisdom knew what the serpent would do.  God is directly responsible for all the horrors on Earth.

However, when I state this, apparently I have it all wrong.  They will then state that in many other verses it states that “God is love” 1 John 4:8, KJV) and that God is “not a God that hath pleasure in wickedness” (Psalm 5:4, KJV) among many others.  What irks me about this however, is that the verse that states he creates evil is supposedly from God Himself, while the others are people talking about God.

So this is the reason I prefer the bible study, it’s simply because I can’t get this whole doublethink thing, and I really want to be able to understand what they understand, to develop better reasoning (if even possible) for why they do and say the things they do.  Just trying not to lose faith in humanity.

On a semi-related note, I may start reading the bible cover to cover and blog about it in another ‘segment’ of this blog.  Properly tagged so people (or more importantly I) can filter them in or out as they please.

Bible Study

Posted by – April 24, 2008

Yes, it’s no typo or lapse of insanity (I’ve always been insane) I’ve started taking a very awkward kind of bible study with some Jehovah’s witness missionaries.  They arrived at my door a few weeks ago and I invited them in, discussing a litle about “God’s Plan” for the world once the evil people are gone, and they asked if they would be able to come back, and of course I obliged them with several visits.  However I think these meetings will be coming to an end shortly.

The best way to describe myself is an Agnostic Atheist Theravadin Buddhist which to some may seem contradictory but I assure you it is not.  I don’t have any issues about learning about the bible in a literary sense, and I actually quite enjoy listening to peoples interpretations and in some cases spin on the dogma.  I am getting quite tired of not having my questions answered however, and this is why I may end communication all together.

I’ve learned exactly (according to JW’s interpretation) how God is going to take back the Earth, why He would allow such pain and suffering to go on under His watchful eye and even how one could be saved from his wrath.  I’ve learned that the bible does not advocate voting, I’ve been informed by references of scripture that to celebrate Christmas is blasphemous (Which I knew before, but didn’t think it was so prevalent, how else can most Christians miss it?).  The problem is that with each topic that is uncovered I have about 2-3 questions that anyone who shows up cannot answer, and I’m not looking to argue or even asking the pesky questions even apologists have issues defending.  I’m asking honest well-natured questions like “Why would God create a tree of knowledge that nobody can eat from?” or “Why would God create Satan if he knew he would deceive him?  In fact wouldn’t that mean God created Satan for the purpose of going against His will?”

I understand these questions are not simple (I picked some of the hardest of the bunch to post here about), but they said that they’ll have to look into them and then get back to me, and then we’d begin reading again
.  So I feel I’m being lied to when the answers never come.  I assume this means the answers are not in the bible, but I’m surprised I don’t get a cop-out answer such as ‘God works in mysterious ways’ which I’m not sure whether I should be grateful for or not.

It makes me wonder how anyone could fall for believing in such a fairytale if such obvious questions jump out even in such a rigorous stream-lined way of studying.  I too though, feel a strange pull towards believing.  Much the same way as it is to procrastinate and not doing a research paper that is due a few weeks from now.  Taking the easy way out, the simple answer; “God did it.”.  It would be extremely easy and even comforting to believe in the story, and the way it’s been backed up with the Christian communities it’s one heck of a story, with a very happy ending.  And the best part?  You don’t really have to do anything, just believe.

I think in a strange sort of way this is what I was looking for, the answer on how one can fall for such a thing as Christianity.  I now see how easy of a trap it would be for those in a tough situation, whether it be a loss of a loved one, a horrible addiction (drugs, alcohol, gambling) where they lose it all.  The pull would be great enough to suck you in, and the way it’s structured it’s near-impossible to get out and see reason, logic and truth.

I have a lot more to say on the topic, but it’s 11:15 and I need to get up in the morning.  I have not proof-read this post so it may be riddled with errors as well, but seeing as how I don’t ever post (as everything is awaiting editing) I may just start posting everything raw, and touching it up when and if I get time.  Expect updates, and a detailed breakdown of one of if not the biggest flaws  see with Christianity, and I’m sure I’m not the only one who sees it, but I’ve NEVER heard it discussed before.